Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: Alternatives to Clipping?
Hi all
I just completed the grim task of retrieving a dead 1 1/2 yr Senegal that I bought last year for my parents. It disappeared Saturday and at first we thought it had gotten lost in the attic, which was something that happened just a couple of weeks ago. I then got the ominous feeling that it had hitched a ride unnoticeably on my father's heavy coat when he went out to get some groceries. I later put a Lost & Found notice in Craigslist for them and the next day was contacted by someone who found the small frozen body several blocks over.
So that was devastating to my parents and I'm kind of upset because I had made the intial visit to the breeder and found the gentle little beast who became a very mischievous one later on.
My mom wants another Senegal right away, but I kind of want her and my father to hold off until I have a better idea of how not to have such a foolish tragedy ever repeated. I've always been anti-clipping on the principle that clipping == crippling. My brother and his family were always annoyed that the Senegal was never clipped because it would always fly on them when they were visiting, and they think that if the Senegal had been clipped, it would be alive now. I don't know about that -- before it started flying, it would often end up on the floor and barely missed getting stepped on a couple of times. I have a friend with a Conure whom she keeps clipped, and he too is prone to fall to the floor from time to time. And I kind of like being greeted by a playful little bird when I go visiting.
I read up on partial-clipping and all that, but.... I just want the next bird to be happy & safe. Any thoughts and advice would be most appreciated.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Clipping?
"BC" <callmebc@gmail.com.NOSPLAM> wrote:
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I read up on partial-clipping and all that, but.... I just want the next bird to be happy & safe. Any thoughts and advice would be most appreciated.
With a partial clip the bird can fly, just not far. It is like putting leg weights on a human, you can still run, it just takes a lot more effort. In some ways, it is good for a captive bird, in that it increases the workout they get when they do fly.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Clipping?
"John Hines" wrote in message I just want the next bird to be happy & safe. Any thoughts and advice would be most appreciated. With a partial clip the bird can fly, just not far. It is like putting leg weights on a human, you can still run, it just takes a lot more effort. In some ways, it is good for a captive bird, in that it increases the workout they get when they do fly. [/quote] That's how I always did it with clipping. I do not clip the Little birds any more but when I did I would do a little at a time. What I was after was for them to not be able to get going good, but not to the point they dropped like rock. With the Macaw I still clip but have to have him outside to see how well it worked at first. Now I know from experience but during the "learning curve" he scared me a couple times. He took some good trips, could not get up in the air, but could get several houses down the street before he went to ground with me running after him. It was not funny at the time but I laugh about it now. With small birds if they get outside and can fly you rarely ever see them alive again. It's great when they (small birds) can fly around the house, but it's a risk. -- "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks." [Lazarus Long]
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Clipping?
Thanks for the feedback. I can and did Google this, but it's nice to get direct feedback. Apparently in Great Britain, it's considered almost unethical to clip pet birds. I am leaning towards encouraging a partial clip as a compromise but even partial clipping makes me antsy philosophically.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Clipping?
"BC" <callmebc@gmail.com.NOSPLAM> wrote:
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Thanks for the feedback. I can and did Google this, but it's nice to get direct feedback. Apparently in Great Britain, it's considered almost unethical to clip pet birds. I am leaning towards encouraging a partial clip as a compromise but even partial clipping makes me antsy philosophically.
You have to keep in mind, clipping the wings on a bird is like a haircut on a human, it doesn't hurt them, and grows out in a year or so with the next moult. It isn't like docking the tail or ears on a dog for example, it isn't permanent.
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