Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:06 am Post subject: Somewhat OT cremation
Any information on cremations on "pick ups" from vets, or by local animal control ? I belong to several pet health groups and have noticed that scads of people who spend big money on care for just a few months extra life with adverse reactions to drugs hand their belved friends over to vets and animal control for cremation. When they get back the ashes they assume it is the remains of their animal. This is too sensitive a question to ask on those boards so I`ll try here. I would never do anything but use my own animal cemetary for cremation ( the one I`ve used will allow you to view the process if desired) , the one dog I`ve had who died had a formal burial in my backyard, I may consider cremation for my other animals, but I`d never trust "the system" to do anything but do group cremations no matter what anyone might say . Any insight into whether ashes returned from vets or animal control pick ups are truly those of just one animal. SD
Any insight into whether ashes returned from vets or animal control pick ups are truly those of just one animal.
I've heard that pet cremations often occur for multiple smaller animals at a time. When I had 70 pound Murphy cremated, because of her size, the odds were that she'd be cremated on her own, but I still paid extra to be sure that this was done. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Any information on cremations on "pick ups" from vets, or by local animal control ? I belong to several pet health groups and have noticed that scads of people who spend big money on care for just a few months extra life with adverse reactions to drugs hand their belved friends over to vets and animal control for cremation. When they get back the ashes they assume it is the remains of their animal. This is too sensitive a question to ask on those boards so I`ll try here. I would never do anything but use my own animal cemetary for cremation ( the one I`ve used will allow you to view the process if desired) , the one dog I`ve had who died had a formal burial in my backyard, I may consider cremation for my other animals, but I`d never trust "the system" to do anything but do group cremations no matter what anyone might say . Any insight into whether ashes returned from vets or animal control pick ups are truly those of just one animal. SD
Hello TimeMixer, stay away from veterinarians and animal control who do cremations. They use shady corrupt pet crematories and I do not favor them. Call a pet cemetery/crematory/funeral home combination that has a good reputation and ask for the information on private pet cremations. Look under the Pet Cemetery & Crematories listing in the Yellow Pages. Backyard burial is not an option. If I were you, I would suggest that you remove your backyard pet cemetery because you might be breaking the law as you know the city/town you live in makes it illegal to bury pets on personal property. You should cremate them right away. Reason is, when you sell your house and property and move, the next people who move in might disturb the backyard pet cemetery by digging it up.
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:54 am Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
On 7 Oct 2005 15:25:38 GMT, Rocky <2dogs@rocky-dog.com.NOSPLAM>, clicked their heels and said:
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Any insight into whether ashes returned from vets or animal control pick ups are truly those of just one animal. I've heard that pet cremations often occur for multiple smaller animals at a time. When I had 70 pound Murphy cremated, because of her size, the odds were that she'd be cremated on her own, but I still paid extra to be sure that this was done.
the shelter I work with does individuals (for a fee), large or small. Very careful about the proper remains being returned to the owner. As far as vets sending out, who knows. That's why I have someone I trust do it. -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:26 am Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:52:43 -0400, WienerDog <wienerdog@thewienerdoghouse.invali.NOSPLAMd>, clicked their heels and said:
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Hello TimeMixer, stay away from veterinarians and animal control who do cremations. They use shady corrupt pet crematories and I do not favor them.
a little overgeneralization, no? The shelter I work with (not an animal control) has an on-site crematory - no sending out. -- Janet B www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
on 2005-10-07 at 11:52 <wienerdog@thewienerdoghouse.invali.NOSPLAMd> wrote:
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Hello TimeMixer, stay away from veterinarians and animal control who do cremations. They use shady corrupt pet crematories and I do not favor them.
that's a ludicrously large brush you're painting with!
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Call a pet cemetery/crematory/funeral home combination that has a good reputation and ask for the information on private pet cremations. Look under the Pet Cemetery & Crematories listing in the Yellow Pages.
yeah, *that's* a way to find a responsible crematorium.
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Backyard burial is not an option.
whew! i guess it's a good thing that elliott is buried in my side yard. -- shelly http://www.cat-sidh.net http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
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Any information on cremations on "pick ups" from vets, or by local animal control ? I belong to several pet health groups and have noticed that scads of people who spend big money on care for just a few months extra life with adverse reactions to drugs hand their belved friends over to vets and animal control for cremation.
We use a wonderful pet cemetery about 40 miles from us. They pick up at our clinic on a regular schedule or when we ask. There are several different options for clients to pick from: Cremation with ashes returned; cremation with ashes scattered; Group burial, private burial. We visit the cemetary once a year and clients go there as well. It's wonderful, beautiful, very professional and I have no concerns about them messing with ashes. They are returned to us in very nice containers with the pet's name on it. If you have concerns, you can take your pet's remains to a local pet cemetery yourself. I only know of two veterinarians who have their own facilities and both take the standards for cremation very seriously and respectfully. You just don't kbow unless you ask questions of the facilities you doubt. -Sharon
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:26:01 -0400, Janet B <janet@bestfriendsdogobedience.com.NOSPLAM> wrote:
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:52:43 -0400, WienerDog wienerdog@thewienerdoghouse.invali.NOSPLAMd>, clicked their heels and said: Hello TimeMixer, stay away from veterinarians and animal control who do cremations. They use shady corrupt pet crematories and I do not favor them. a little overgeneralization, no? The shelter I work with (not an animal control) has an on-site crematory - no sending out.
Well Janet, take a look at this article and it tells you why the pet cremation industry is rife with fraud. that is why veterinarians are are getting caught with their pants down for using a corrupt pet crematory. http://www.funeralwire.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=17310 WienerDog
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:09:34 -0400, "Sharon" <askformyaddy@nospamhotmail.com.NOSPLAM> wrote:
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Hello TimeMixer, stay away from veterinarians and animal control who do cremations. They use shady corrupt pet crematories and I do not favor them. Not true.
It is true..... http://www.funeralwire.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=17310 Read it and see........
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:08:26 -0400, "Sharon" <askformyaddy@nospamhotmail.com.NOSPLAM> wrote:
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Any information on cremations on "pick ups" from vets, or by local animal control ? I belong to several pet health groups and have noticed that scads of people who spend big money on care for just a few months extra life with adverse reactions to drugs hand their belved friends over to vets and animal control for cremation. We use a wonderful pet cemetery about 40 miles from us. They pick up at our clinic on a regular schedule or when we ask. There are several different options for clients to pick from: Cremation with ashes returned; cremation with ashes scattered; Group burial, private burial. We visit the cemetary once a year and clients go there as well. It's wonderful, beautiful, very professional and I have no concerns about them messing with ashes. They are returned to us in very nice containers with the pet's name on it. If you have concerns, you can take your pet's remains to a local pet cemetery yourself. I only know of two veterinarians who have their own facilities and both take ----snipped--- >8
I hope that pet cemetery you deal with is a member of the International Association of Pet Cemeteries & Crematories whose website is located at http://www.iaopc.com ...... WienerDog P.S. Proper terms to describe white stuff after cremation...... Do not say: Say: Ashes Cremains (cremated remains)
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
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Hello TimeMixer, stay away from veterinarians and animal control who do cremations. They use shady corrupt pet crematories and I do not favor them. Not true. It is true.....
I don't need to read "it". Considering my husband and I are one of those veterinarians/animal hospitals, I know what we do and who we deal with. You don't, so don't define our practice. -Sharon
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:49:22 -0400, "Sharon" <askformyaddy@nospamhotmail.com.NOSPLAM> wrote:
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Hello TimeMixer, stay away from veterinarians and animal control who do cremations. They use shady corrupt pet crematories and I do not favor them. Not true. It is true..... I don't need to read "it". Considering my husband and I are one of those veterinarians/animal hospitals, I know what we do and who we deal with. You don't, so don't define our practice. -Sharon
Will you please just read it? I am pleading with you. It is important that you do, because of problems with veterinarians contracting out cremations to corrupt pet cremation companies that get caught by the USDOJ. The operators of these services have been jailed. Their motivation is GREED and they do NOT do what they are supposed to do. They take customers money, spend it for their own use instead of putting it in a trust fund until the pet passes away. Also one other thing, in my opinion, it should be the law that the only place to have pet cremations done should be in a PET CEMETERY/CREMATORY/FUNERAL HOME combination or at a HUMAN FUNERAL HOME that has a PET CREMATORY on-site and is LICENCED by the states where they are located and should be run by LICENCED FUNERAL DIRECTORS only, to stamp out shady and corrupt crematories, and veterinarians/animal hospitals be BANNED from contracting out and tell their clients that they can't do the cremations anymore and are told to call the local funeral home or pet cemetery to come pick their pets up and transfer them back. The State of New York already has a law in place dealing with this matter. The pet cemeteries/crematories/funeral homes are licenced by the State of New York.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
As for vets " not making as much as MDs " : vet offices are crammed with customers paying big bucks, vets (who all sell Frontline plus for about $ 50 for three tubes for big dogs when the same product can be had for about $30 online, free shipping , no not PET MEDS, they`re little better than vets ) are no friend of my dogs.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
I'm sure there are some bad businesses out there it doesn't mean that "everyone" is corrupt. I lost both my dogs this last year and had both of them creamated. I paid the extra money to have each of them creamated and their ashes returned to me. I have never once questioned if the ashes I received back were those of my dog. As a rule each lb yeilds one ounce of ashes. And that's exactly what I received back. 51 ounces for Barney and 62 ounces for Brandy. Now I know most people don't weigh the ashes but I did because of the memorial I am going to have made for them. I wanted to be sure that there would be enough room to hold both dogs together. Celeste "WienerDog" wrote in message 01 -0400, Janet B ----snipped--- >8[/quote]
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Somewhat OT cremation
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:12:33 GMT, "Spot" <noSPAMme@somewhere.net.NOSPLAM> wrote:
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I'm sure there are some bad businesses out there it doesn't mean that "everyone" is corrupt. I lost both my dogs this last year and had both of them creamated. I paid the extra money to have each of them creamated and their ashes returned to me. I have never once questioned if the ashes I received back were those of my dog. As a rule each lb yeilds one ounce of ashes. And that's exactly what I received back. 51 ounces for Barney and 62 ounces for Brandy. Now I know most people don't weigh the ashes but I did because of the memorial I am going to have made for them. I wanted to be sure that there would be enough room to hold both dogs together. Celeste
Oh. Thats very nice to hear. You have my sympathy. The only thing, it seems that the pet cremation industry has a few bad apples in the bunch that spoil it for everybody by thinking GREED. I hope you took a chance to read the article at the link I posted a few messages back.
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